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(Changing the date of this post from its original 1/22/2009 to today so that it moves up in my list since folks have been asking for this info rather a lot lately!

 

Part 1: Prepping the fabric

 

Irish Dance dress embroidery…nowadays there is no clear cut definition of what this should look like.  It used to consist mainly of recognizably Celtic designs, but now anything can serve as inspiration for embellishing a solo dress.  The only consistent factor is its inconsistency!

 

But the one thing we embroiderers want is to have a clear, smooth product.  One definite challenge in achieving this is the Celtic knot in all its forms.  The complicated series of overs and unders presents unique considerations because the stitch out does not happen in a smooth, unbroken fashion.  To accommodate the changing overlaps, a digitizer, and hence the embroidery machine, must move from place to place to establish the unders before going back to form the overs.  This disjointed stitching creates uneven pulling on the fabric which can create puckering and warping of the fabric which then contributes to joins that do not match.  Below is an example.

 

double knot braid broken

 

Very often a factor in this issue is fabric that is not hooped tightly enough so that the fabric cannot be moved.  Are some hoops better than others?  Most likely…I know that the hoops I use for my commercial machine are better than the hoops for my home embroidery machine at holding the fabric.  But because I was tired of seeing my Celtic knot designs out of alignment, I found a way around this.  (This is also a way to deal with fabric that cannot be hooped without damaging it like velvet.)

 

First, the fabric must be interfaced and then stabilized with fusibles.  For those of you thinking this does not seem conducive to creating a comfortable costume for dancing, well, you are correct!  Most Irish Dance dressmakers do their best to make these dresses as comfortable as possible, but in some instances the amount of embroidery dictates a certain stiffness that the dancer is more than happy to deal with in the name of Irish Dance fashion.  And, because so many skirts  are actually very stiff or have stiff parts, this heavy stabilizing actually helps achieve the desired crisp look.

 

Most importantly, though, this interfacing and stabilizing helps the fabric stand up to what can be very dense stitching.  Whether or not your base fabric is stabilized with a fusible interfacing (tricot or woven) is totally up to you.  I personally feel that all fabric, including the heavy velvet, will support embroidery better if it is first interfaced with a fusible.  I do remove as much stabilizer as I can from the bodice and sleeves and soft skirts when the embroidery is done, but the interfacing remains to give the base fabric the body and support it needs both as clothing and as the base for the embroidery.

 

After the fabric is interfaced, I fuse Pellon Decorbond to the areas to be embroidered.  This is fairly stiff interfacing which helps support the stitches.  Yes, there is softer, cheaper stuff, but I have found it does not work as well as I want it to.  The excess Decorbond can be cut away, which is what I do, or it can be left to help achieve the level of stiffness desired.

 

Your fabric can be embroidered two different ways: uncut and cut to size.  When doing the embroidery for clients who will be making the dress themselves, I ask that they send me rectangles with the pattern piece traced on the  stabilizer so that I can make sure the design is sized correctly. For myself, however, I cut the pieces out to size before embroidering because I use my patterns in my digitizing software to ensure correct sizing and placement; some of the professional dressmakers that I have worked extensively with also send cut pieces to me since by now we have individual sizing systems in place.

 

 

 To illustrate, I am using the center front panel of  a three panel dress.  This has been cut out and the silver pleats already sewn and fused in place.  

Pics sept 30 023 by you.

 

Below is the wrong side, interfaced with a fusible tricot fusible.

Pics sept 30 026 by you.

 

This next pic shows the piece stabilized with Decorbond.  The center of the area to be embroidered is marked by the vertical line.

Pics sept 30 027 by you.

 

Next to be marked in this case is the lower edge of the design.  I mark this place for this design because I want all of the skirt designs to be 1 inch from the finished hem.

Pics sept 30 029 by you.

 

Part 2: The Sticky Stuff

I use a LOT of this stuff  when  I am using my Bernina –
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For my bigger commercial hoops, I use the same type of material from a very large roll.

If you look online for tutorials involving sticky stabilizer, you are told to cut your length of the stabilizer and then put it, paper back and all, into the outside hoop.  You are then told to score an area and pull off the paper to expose an area that you can adhere your fabric to.

I dislike this method because ultimately the hoop loses tension on the stabilizer (the paper is slippery!), and the fabric being embroidered can, and usually does, start to pucker and shift, especially when doing the complicated overs and unders of a Celtic knot.

I will illustrate what I do using one of my large hoops for my commercial machine.Pics sept 30 009 by you.

As you can see above, having come off of a roll, the stabilizer is curled.  To get started, I lay the inner hoop ring right side up on the paper side of the sticky back to flatten the curl as shown below.

Pics sept 30 010 by you.

Then, I begin to pull the paper backing off the piece of sticky stabilizer.Pics sept 30 011 by you.

With the hoop still weighing the stabilizer down, I pull the paper off one end.Pics sept 30 012 by you.

Then I move the hoop end onto the exposed sticky stabilizer.Pics sept 30 013 by you.

I rub the stabilizer onto the bottom and a bit of the side of the hoop.  Then, holding the hoop, I pull the rest of the paper off so that the hoop “catches” the stabilizer.Pics sept 30 014 by you.

Attaching the stabilizer evenly around the hoop can take some patience.
This next pic shows the sticky back attached tightly…when I thwack it with my finger it sounds like a drum. Pics sept 30 015 by you.

Next, I cut a piece of tear away stabilizer…

Pics sept 30 016 by you.

…and then hoop the whole shebang.

Pics sept 30 020 by you.

Part 3: Getting that fabric placed correctly!

Now I am ready to place the fabric.  I am going to line up the reference lines drawn on the fabric with corresponding lines that I stitch out onto the sticky stabilizer.

 

These are the placement lines stitched out onto the sticky back.

Pics sept 30 033 by you.

 

To refresh, here are the reference lines on stabilized piece.

 Pics sept 30 027    Pics sept 30 029

 

I begin by folding back the fabric at the junction that the two lines cross, and then I attempt to line up that fold with the the corresponding place on the stabilizer.Pics sept 30 035 by you.

 

It does take a bit of jockeying back and forth from end to end to get it lined up on both the x & y axes.  The pic below shows I am on track here…Pics sept 30 039 by you.

 

…but not at the other end.Pics sept 30 037 by you.

 

So, I shift until I get this straight…Pics sept 30 038 by you.

 

…then check the other end again…Pics sept 30 039 by you.

 

…press it down to check the horizontal alignment…Pics sept 30 036 by you.

 

… and I am done!

Pics sept 30 040 by you.

 

Before I begin embroidering the actual design, there will be a basting box sewn around the embroidery area.  This anchors the fabric securely in place to further reduce any shifting or puckering.  You can read a bit more about that here:  Basting Boxes .  Also, to help alleviate the sticky build up and reduce thread breaks,  I hoop a length of waxed paper under the sticky back…you can read about that here: Waxed Paper

 

 

Another new dress, this one made by Mary Jo Farr of Trefoil Designs.  

I did the embroidery, fooling with the design to get what MJ wanted.  This is one of my designs, a diagonal (obviously), based  on TA-AD 1.  I will get it up in the store soon, but as usual, if you want it sooner rather than later, email me.

I love doing these dress, MJ!!  This is one of the prettiest we have done yet!

Also have the first ribbon bodice digitized.  This can be either a stitch fill or an applique.  I will get it in the store, but it is available sooner if you want it.

There are currently 2 design sets from Susan available on Taoknitter Arts: Irish Dance Dress Designs & Embroidery.  Click anywhere below to get to a page of dress ideas.  Please keep in mind that I am still available to help you create your dream dress in any way I can!  More designs are on the way!

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Dressmaker & Embroiderer: Terri Epperson, Majestic Dress: Custom Irish Dance Dresses
Embroidery Designer & Digitizer: Me

 

Just wonderful, Terri!!

Ok,  pic of the first test:

(One of these days I will really learn to use one of my photo software packages so I can make pics like this the best they can be, but no time now.  So sorry that they are not perfect.  And yes, there are pieces of thread that I did not trim…it’s a test!!))

The youngest diva and I stood there and watched a lot of this stitch out.  You would think it was all magic the way we become so fascinated.  I would be lying if I said my attention to it is purely professional as I am just as excited watching the stitches take shape as my 8 yr-old is, but I do also learn a lot about the designs and things I need to fix by watching the machine do its thing.

If you look closely at the above pic, you can see some rippling, some shadows, and off-kilter lines.  Why?  Because I got lazy, and I still needed to adjust some stitch densities.  My laziness means I did not prep the fabric the way I would the actual dress pieces, so the fabric could not stand up to the stitches which caused a lot of rippling and nap diving (burrowing into the velvet) even though I still used a topper.  My bad…however, I think that may also have helped to make it very clear where I still needed to adjust stitch densities and satin stitch widths.

A bit closer here:

  This one gives a sense of how small this all is as you can see some microscopic dust (a decorating choice in this house), and the weave of the velvet!  You can also see how off center things got because I did not stabilize well enough.  You’d think I was a rookie…

So, I spent a few hours re-working the designs, checking and adjusting every line and shape…I dreamed all night long that the blue feathers on the eagle kept growing and changing and re-swirling different directions.  Do you think my embroidery dreams are evidence of psychosis??

My embroidery hubris made me take my next test a bit more seriously.  I interfaced the velvet first with a woven fusible then fused Decorbond to that.  After I hooped my sticky back, I then used a heavy duty tear away behind that…I contemplated using 2 layers of the tear away, but worried that might have been an overkill that would cause skipped stitches.

This test was much better all the way around.

There are still some shadows from the nap of the velvet, but no rippling or nap diving.  All of the braid lines stayed lined up though I still went back into the design files to make the satin stitch even just a bit wider to try to fill in the remaining gaps between the satin stitch columns and the back stitch outlines.

Here is the eagle that haunted my dreams:

The winged lion:

The gryphons and a braid:

The nessies:

Bodice front with the birds, serpent braid, and red braids…you can see clearly here that the satin stitch inside the braids needs to be wider…that just bugs me!

And lastly the vertical braids which also got a bit more tweaking after this:

I sent the test piece off to Colleen who will see the family that wants the reproduction at a feis this weekend…is it CNY?  Colleen called me when she got it this afternoon, and she was as excited as I am about this little thing!  So nice to hear her voice.  One of these days I hope I get to meet some of my fellow dressmakers in person…such great people!

ETA:  More curve on the learning curve!  We decided to use a gold metallic in place of the tan thread in the designs.  It was a particular kind of metallic from Madeira meant to be strong.  Yeah…so freaking strong that my machine would not cut it so this is what the stitch out looked like!

3 by you.

Yuck, boo, hiss!!!  No time to find a similar color in a different thread, so I went back in to re-do the embroidery sequence.  Thank goodness I consider this kind of challenge to be FUN!!

I wrote about the beginning of this journey here:  Newest Endeavor

Many digitizing software packages now come with an automatic applique function.  Call me old-fashioned or cranky, but once again the logic of the one in my software escapes me.  I spend more time cleaning it up and removing excess steps than I do actually digitizing the whole thing myself!  And I do one extra step that helps me avoid fraying fabric pieces which is important considering some of the unusual fabrics we ID dressmakers use.

This is what I do.

  • Prep the fabric.  I use a fusible interfacing and either a good fusible stabilizer (Decorbond) or I fuse Wonderunder to the back so that the piece can be fused to the base.
  • I outline my shape with a running stitch as below.  (To conserve fabric, I will stitch this out onto my base fabric first so that I can see where to place the applique fabric to avoid waste.  This is also a way to ensure placement of pieces already cut to size.  Many people do it that way.)app 1 by you.
  • Next, I duplicate the above shape.  (This will be the initial tack down.  After this line is stitched, I can trim the fabric.)app 2 by you.
  • I duplicate the shape again…app 3 by you.
  • …and change it to a satin stitch.app 4 by you.
  • I do not digitize in a separate zig-zag or step tack down as my satin stitch is preceded by this underlay…app 6 by you.
  • …which is then followed by the satin-stitch.app 4 by you.
  • Now, before I do the final satin stitch, I usually run a line of Fraycheck along the tack down stitch before I trim.  This helps seal the fabric to prevent fraying.  However, sometimes fraying will still happen depending on the fabric, so I have taken to digitizing in a second running stitch tack-down line.app 7 by you.
  • Then I apply the Fraycheck, and then I trim very closely to that outside line.  Finish with the satin stitch. 
  • app 4 by you.

A while back, dressmaker Colleen Murphy contacted me about collaborating on a very cool project: an ID dress reproduction of a full sized, hand embroidered velvet dress…for an American Girl doll!  I was intrigued so, of course, said yes.

The original dress is unbelievable!  Black velvet, orange crocheted collar, and some of the most interesting & beautiful Celtic/Irish hand embroidery I have ever seen.  I will admit to being intimidated on SOOO many levels, but the challenge could not be ignored.

Colleen is game for me to write about this, and I will include pics of my work, but I will not post pics of the original dress until I am sure it is ok with the owners.

Photos arrive…and I sit there and stare…and stare…and stare some more.  So many things are going through my head about  colors, stitches, faithful reproduction, artistic license… have I bit off more than I can chew?  I dreamed about this dress and how the gryphons and lions chased me while I was trying to thread a needle! 

My biggest obstacle was dealing with my “feelings,” my philosophy on faithful reproduction.  Besides the fact that neither my embroidery software nor machine can manage a chain stitch, there is the integrity of someone else’s artwork to consider.  As you may know, I am a retired dance professor/dancer/choreographer/artistic director…the issues of artistic integrity are part and parcel of who I am on so many levels.  My master’s degree encompassed directing and Labanotation/movement analysis, and it is this training in Labanotation in particular that honed my focus on/obsession with faithful reproduction. 

Labanotation is dance notation, a logical though complex system of symbols and rules used to first record dance and then to reconstruct it again on new people, sometimes decades later.  If you are interested, you can learn more here: Labanotation.

Not long after I got to grad school at Ohio State, I changed my concentration to include Labanotation.  I was fascinated by and drawn to this extremely logical approach to dance.  Now, I am sure my professors would tell you they shook their heads many, many times at my emo approach to dance in general, but I will never forget the day I let the logic take over…Vera Maletic gave me a very rare smile and nodded her head before turning away to bark at me to do it again!  Not only did my symbols need to precisely record illogical movement, but when I read notated scores and performed them, it better look the way Doris Humphrey demanded decades before!  It was a very intense LOVE/HATE relationship.

So, here I was 24 years later, looking at someone else’s beautiful art with the intention of reproducing it.  I swear I felt Vera thwack the back of my skull.

The animals were glaring at me, so I chose a knotwork braid to start with.  That I could handle easily.

vertical braids by you.

Now, I have not ever done anything as small as was going to be required here, but I knew that I could not do this the way I would if it were going to remain full size.  So, even though I did the original digitizing in a decent size, instead of outlining all of this with a satin stitch, I chose a backstitch to approximate both the look of the chain stitch outlines and to accommodate what I knew would end up being very narrow lines.  But, after doing this design, I knew I was going to have to do a test dress to get a real feel for the size and to get a sense of stitch density for something as small as the designs on an AG dress.

Colleen sent me pics of her pattern pieces & dimensions so I could digitize the outlines to use as templates.  I then used one of my designs.  Even though I have not done mini-designs, I have enough experience by now to know that if I used the same stitch density that I use for the ID designs, I was going to be tunneling to China!!  Too many stitches in such a small area was only going to pull in, and perhaps make holes in the fabric no matter the pull compensation, so I lightened the density a lot.  Here’s the result:

dolltestdress 011 by colmurph2000.

And here is it finished…I am so tempted to buy an AG doll for the youngest Diva!

AG test dress by you.

(I feel the need to say here that I so admire that Colleen likes doing these little dresses, and she does them so well!  I have this psychotic aversion to sewing things with small pieces which is why I am not a quilter…these dresses qualify as beautiful small things that make me twitch!  I know I do applique with small pieces, but like every other psycho, it is the context…it goes on a BIG dress.)

So, I learned I was right about stitch density.  The test turned out well…and everyone in my family got a big kick out of this tiny little dress.  Even the macho hubby talked to it like it was a gerbil…

The next design I tackled was what I call the Nessies:

nessies by you.

This design took me days.  Why?  Because I kept finding myself mired in choices…colors (decided Colleen can match colors since she has the dress, but still wanted to match as closely as possible so the client could have a visual); stitches (leave plain or play with texture?); overs and unders (fix them so that they make sense or keep them as they were originally stitched?); symmetry (make things perfectly symmetrical as I imagine they were intended and as I can with the computer or stay true to the actual pics keeping in mind that over the years the fabric changes and hangs differently now?); handmade look versus computerized perfection…haven’t there been more than a few artists driven insane by the demands of their art?!?  Ya know Van Gogh and that ear…???

I cannot count the number of times I would find myself just sitting in front of the computer contemplating the photos…I imagined how much of it was done in the company of other women doing exactly the same thing.  I wondered how many mistakes occurred and were then simply incorporated because the embroiderer got caught up in a conversation with her fellow stitchers.  I wondered how often the zen of the repetitive needlework sent the embroiderer on a quiet journey of her own…and then I would start.

I decided that if this were me doing the hand stitching, I would work for symmetry.  I would work for the logical progression of the overs and unders, but I would get over myself when the logic failed.  I decided I would follow the handmade lines but clean things up when unique moments took on the aura of a mistake.  I decided I would try to keep the look of its handmade beauty while using my technology to enhance it where applicable.  I decided less was more…and that was hard!!

And this is what I have so far:

vertical braids by you.birds by you.

nessies by you.

winged lion by you.

serpent braid by you.

eagle by you.

braid by you.

waist braid by you.

griffins by you.

And here are the dress pieces:

reproduction front skirt by you.

reproduction skirt back by you.

reproduction bodice by you.

This weekend, I will do another test.  I will post pics of it, succeed or fail.

There is a new thread on Celtic Flame about stealing designs.  A dressmaking mom writes that another mom in her school told her she was wasting her time coming up with her own designs because there was so much to COPY on the internet.  When she first wrote, she alluded to a website that sells embroidery, so I wondered if she might be talking about Taoknitter Arts.

An answer that she just posted to another reply makes me think she is talking about my website.

Big sigh. 

Susan and I have hashed out the pitfalls of posting clear pics of the designs since I started.  She has dealt with this issue far longer than I have, and I respect her viewpoint, her advice and her experience.  I will not bore you, or myself, by re-visiting  the mental gymnastics (complete with teeth gnashing) that helped me arrive at the current presentation of the designs on my website.  If you look at it, I think you get it.

But, I do want to say that I know I take the risk of people copying things.  I have this tendency to believe that all folks are inherently honest and honorable.  I do, routinely, get blind-sided by self-serving idiots with an overdeveloped sense of entitlement, and I sometimes finally get really irked by stupidity and mean-spiritedness, but I have yet to see a change in my basic trust.  I now know what it sounds like when Susan shakes her head at me over the phone.

It would make me crazy to try to police things or try to find a more complicated way of managing the designs.  But let me be clear, copying a design is stealing and I am not shy about approaching the thief and making it public if I have to.  I did, by accident, see an exact copy of a dress I made for my daughter.  Susan designed it for us.  The design was never made available, but there it was, perfectly copied on someone else’s dress.  When I contacted the overseas dressmaker, she was great about it, very sorry, and told me that the design had been given to her by the dancer. 

I get contacted rather often by dancers who send me pics of designs from other dresses, even BN dresses, wanting THAT design digitized.  Sometimes I get a design “created by the dancer” only to be led by the dressmaking gods to pics of the EXACT design on a finished dress…that blows my mind.  Once I explain that I will not copy because it is both unethical and illegal, they usually calmly explain that they did not know that and we go forward.  Only once did I not hear back after my refusal…I think that was embarrassment.

I do think most folks either do not know or really do not think about it.  One poster on CF wrote: ” I think the problem is that most people don’t equate “appropriating” someone’s design as stealing because they don’t physically take something.  It isn’t like shoplifting where you actually take something in your hand.

It’s more like cheating on a test.

Ask your friend if she encourages her dd to copy her neighbor’s answers on exams in school. Why not? It is just what she did. She used someone else’s work and passed it off as her own.

Ask her if she’s going to brag about how she aquired her designs – Wow look what I copied off of the internet and I didn’t have to pay for it! If someone asks her where the design came from, is she going to say “Oh I digitized it myself” or something equally evasive. If she’s so proud of her cleverness, why not tell all?

Ask her if she thinks the TC will be happy if she finds out the design was lifted. Is she OK with her school being known as the one where it is OK to rip off other people’s dresses?”

Interesting viewpoint.

Susan made me laugh when she pointed out that truly, the only thing I should worry about is if someone else’s poorly digitized “copy” was thought to be mine!  Now that would be a drag!

There was also a point made by someone about using designs from a site on the internet.  She wrote: “While there are a couple of sites out there that have drawn up several dress designs specifically for irish dancing use, you have to remember then, that your dress won’t be an original. Chances of running into another dancer with the same pattern are slim but just something to keep in mind.

That mind set has never occurred to me!!  Yes, yes, I know that the conversation about whether or not a BN dress is really custom when they re-use designs in part or in whole pops up routinely.  But, it has always been my assumption that each dressmaker brings a totally different perspective to making a dress and so it will be rare that 2 dressmakers will use the same design the same way let alone the same fabrics.  In fact, what I love about my clients is that they always do something I did not envision.  Very often, they ask me to modify the designs by taking something out, putting something else in, taking it apart or trying something new with a piece of something else!  I love it.

Still, I guess that is a concern for some people.  I appreciate that.  And I also thoroughly appreciate my creative dressmaking clients.  Thank you for spurring me on!

I thought that the above might have been a rant…I guess it was just a bit of mental popcorn…

There are a couple of links in this brief post about Copyright Law: Substantial Similarity.

Big, big, multiples sighs…the Sneetches are at it once more.  Dressmakers are being accused of “highway robbery” again. So that I can maintain a detached, calm stance, I am going to assume that is mainly directed at the BNs (big names).

It has not yet been said in the voy board post to which I am referring that “it is only embroidery for pete’s sake, not the artistic applique of not-so-long-ago!” Let me be clear here that I am in awe of the MANY appliqued works of art that were done without the benefit of digitizing. Susan Gowin’s work stuns me every time, and I drool over The Silverlode dresses. Amazing. I completely appreciate the time and artistic talent.

By the same token, all the embroidery that we are seeing on the dresses these days is equal in the amount of time and even talent that it takes to create the designs, digitize them well, and then stitch them out (ok, maybe there is no artistry in using a computerized machine, but it is still time intensive and takes mechanical understanding and skill). The look is different now, yes, but no less costly than the applique wonders of before. In fact, in terms of the embroidery itself, I would guess that there is in fact more embroidery on dresses now than ever before!

And that is not cheap. Why? Because good digitizing takes lots of time. But, unless you are a digitizer, how and why would you know that?

My sister-in-law is a crafter. She came to me to ask if she could use the embroidery machine. When she saw my confusion because I know she does not know how to use one, she said, “It’s easy, isn’t it? Don’t I just feed in a picture of what I want?” She is a smart person so she quickly understood it was not simple when I explained a bit, but it dawned on me that perhaps many folks assume that we ID dressmakers and embroiderers do just feed in the pictures and sit back. My favorite board comment has always been the one that stated dressmakers should not make so much money because all of their machines are computerized now…the implication being that we just throw all of the ingredients at the machines and they suck it up and spit a complete dress out the other end?!?!?! I wish!!!

Now, there is something called the “auto-digitize” function in many, if not all, of the digitizing software packages. However, this is rarely a successful way to create good embroidery files.  Auto-digitizing leaves tell-tale signs that affect the integrity of the embroidery.  Good digitizers use it rarely if at all.  (I did a post about auto-digitizing here.) 

When I first started my digitizing education, I looked carefully at the designs I had bought for myself.  I deconstructed them and learned mainly what not to do…don’t use auto-digitize!  Many (most?) of the celtic knot design sets out there are created using that auto button.  How can I tell?  Because the knot file itself is full of strange thread detours, junctions, shapes & lines, and the embroidery is just as asymmetrical and mis-shapen as the original hand drawn sources found in the clip-art sources…yep, clip art.  But, the open secret in embroidery of using clip art as a starting point is a post for a different day. 

I know that the economy is bad. I have so many clients buying digitized designs so that they can make their own dresses. Some of them have me do the embroidery for them because they do not have the equipment or big enough hoops. My Taoknitter Arts email box is hopping with correspondence with people of all experience levels wanting to do for themselves. It’s great!

But there have been several exchanges, a few of them very lengthy, with people who have asked for estimates based on some pretty intensive design re-working. They also wanted me to stitch them out. When I gave them the estimates, however, these people disappeared. I have been mulling this over…why would folks assume a full dress of dense stitching would only cost $20?

I asked one of my outspoken dressmaker friends (she is also my embroidery tester) what she thought about this.  I have edited a bit to protect the innocent, but this is what she had to say:

When I was looking at your site the other day, I made note of the prices. I thought, $30 for this bodice design, $20 for the matching panel and probably another $20 for whatever I decided to put on the sleeve. Total: $70.00. When I bought just the drawing for a design from a well-known ID designer a while back, I paid $50 for just the rights to use the design and then knew I would have to have it digitized. Lucky me was in the position of being your official tester already, so I was testing it for you anyway, but if I had to send that off to 24-hour digitizing.com, or some other digitizing company, can you imagine what I would have paid to have JUST the front panel done?? I figure $75-100 and that doesn’t count the front bodice or shawl clip.

The industry standard for stitching out a design is $1 per 1000 stitches.  Folks who know that using metallic thread can be tricky charge $1.50 per 1000 stitches when using metallic threads.  This includes the cost of the hoop stabilizers and machine use.  Some people charge a set-up fee which can encompass the digitizing or just doing the test stitch outs before the actual run.  I do not charge a set-up fee…if there is a digitizing fee I say so up front and that is usually only when it is an exclusive custom design.

Digitizing fees are more which makes sense because bad digitizing gives you a bad product!  I have seen fees as low as $2 per 1000 stitches but those also seem to ask for perfect vector art work which leads me to believe they try to use auto-digitize as much as possible…or they have slave labor!  My fees run $3-4.50 depending on the artwork (hand-drawn takes more time to deal with).  $4 is about standard while I have seen some places that charge as much as $7.50 per 1000 stitches.

Someone just wrote this past week to get an estimate, and because of my friend, I was able to point out that while the stitch-out of an entire stitch-dense design from my site might run $350 to $450, if I had to digitize the entire design for her, it would cost at least twice that and therein lies the expense for solo dresses!  It takes TIME to create, digitize, manipulate, re-size, test, revise, test again, revise again, and then finally stitch out the design onto the dress pieces.  Believe me, if I could get Dr. Suess to make me a perfect embroidery contraption into which I could feed all of the elements and then sit back as it whirred and chugged and then belched out a finished product with the current necessary bling on its belly button, I would!

I do realize that this is a scary time.  It is for all of us.  I just wish the Sneetches would ask for info before labeling ID dressmakers as thieves.  I can guarantee that it is a rare non-BN dressmaker who makes even sufficient money doing this.  I certainly hope they exist.